WWI Guards Division Forum

Hey guys,

Just wanted to say thanks to all of you for an awesome event! You were a great group to be a officer for and I felt the Guards were on the top tier all weekend, thanks again!

Hey Guys,
I just want to second Alex's comments. I hope everyone who made it had a great time.

Jim

Hey guys,
It really was an awesome event! You guys really have your shit together and it was a real pleasure to be in the trench next to you! It was a really great time on sat night and I think that Guardsman Comes has the makings of a very fine bomber indeed!

Cheers!
Bomber Macgregor

Ok,
I know this is my second post in a row but I have some stuff I need to get off of my chest. I was reading stuff on the trench line about the event and some stuff was brought to my attention that I forgot to gripe about before. lol so Im going to vent now, Be prepared. This crap with the Germans locking doors behind them as they leave has to stop if they are going to cry when we break them down. Bottom line, If you lock the door in an entrance to a trench it will be broken down. Its part of the scenario, you over come the block by any means necessary. the location of a MG in the trench on the northern end of the German line was very unsafe,If i recall correctly dosent the gwa have strict regulations about machine guns like maxims and other such medium emplaced mgs? also the machine gunner also refused to react to grenades thrown within 5 feet of him and kept on plugging away and was miffed when i refused to take a hit. When a group of guys run through a mg bullet stream it is totally realistic that one or two may make it through especially when the gap was as small as that one was. Also I was not aware that in order to kill someone with a grenade that you have to practically put it in his lap anything that explodes within 7 feet is lethal or at least a cause of injury of some type. Even though I did not take a hit initially, upon talking to the German mg I did take a hit and did not continue with the assault. I did like the increased use of smoke and gas this event and i really liked the bigger night assaults on sat night. the presence of soo many grenade boxes also looked really good and again I really liked working with the guards, it almost makes me want to be one of you guys, but I like my kilt too much! Roe did a pretty good job as officer and all of you guys kits looked pretty good. I was sad however that the germans never got to our sector of the trench, I think perhaps they were scared of us!
Anyway thats my two cents!

Cheers!
Bomber Macgregor

As a heads up on the Trench block issue - it has been brought to the attention of several members of the G8 and should be resolved in the future.

Regards,

Jim

Great!
Bomber Macgregor

I can kinda see both sides of the issue on smashing bunker doors.

On the one side, I can see that if it's in the trench, it's in play -- but if you break it you should pay for it. If a Hun jumped in our trench and smashed two or three grenade boxes...fine...but I'd want to compensated...either in labor or money. If we don't reach a compromise one way or another, things could get out of hand. If I came across a padlocked door, I'd probably move on, but I wasn't there so I can't really comment.

I think most people are on the same page with you John. The door was actually chained shut, and since there were no other directions to go in that trench, the only alternatives were to go to the road behind the Germans that was "out of play", or go back over the parapets, which they stress in the safety meetings should never be done. One of the three rules had to break and it happened to be the door.

It seems that they put some shoulders into the door and instead of breaking open the door it knocked down the whole frame. Once the raid was over, I actually sent a few allied "prisoners" over to repair the door. It was put up and nailed back into place. The German unit was very thankful for the assistance.

The only question left was how strong should trench blocks be. In WWI any sort of trench block would have been torn out or blown up as quickly as possible. You correctly point out that we put a lot of time and money into this hobby and no one wants their efforts destroyed. This event however has brought the question to the G8 which comes down that trench block are allowed, but they can not completely stop people. They have to be built in a way that will delay people, but not completely stop them.

I think the issue is going to be resolved, but it was brought to a head with this particular incident. I hope that assisting in the repairs will show the Germans that we are not out to destroy their things, but when in the course of play things do get damaged, it is not entirely intentional.

My two cents.

Jim

It does seem that the Germans planned on a locked door to be a way to prevent the Allies from overrunning their trenches. With the road as out of bounds, and not being able to go in any other way but through the door, what did they think would happen?

Drew (and the rest of you reading this post),

reminder... there was a third option.

OPTION ONE - the door is locked... BACK UP...
which led you to option two.

OPTION TWO - follow connecting trench to the road.... CAN'T USE THE ROAD... which lead you to option three.

OPTION THREE - Since Jerry is bending the rules with the door, bend the rules with the road. RUN PARALLEL TO IT... YOU ARE STILL IN BOUNDS.

Tom Price and I went out at the end of the trench but BEFORE the road. This led to the clearing of the trench on the OTHER side of the door by Bomber MacGregor and Gdsmn Wiley. At this point, there was no need to do anything with the locked door as there were more troops along the parapets than in the trench. (to quote CRINT, "Improvise, adapt and overcome!!!")

At this point, before we all heard about the door being broken, we had alot of momentum going and were about to attack Max's bunker where Baron "stinky Pants" was. Aleo and Price were regrouping men to attack the bunker. Chad had thrown in a few test grenades to the outer alcove.

Then we heard about the door being broken and that just really took the wind out of everyones sailes. "I SAY, DID WE UPSET JERRY?, OH BOTHER!"
FRIGUM, RIGUM, RIGUM, ARGH!!!! (Grunts of shear frustration... realistic for the time period)LOL

Yes, we did the right thing by fixing it...
but remember for the future...
THERE IS ALWAYS A THIRD OPTION...
FIND IT!!!

Let me toss this out...why is the road out of bounds? That means the Kuraissier Bunker is always safe...and for that matter the Gungha Den is safe too. If I were a Hun and penatrated that far and I'm standing around Keystone Manor and looking across the road at Allied HQ, but it's out of bounds, I'd be ticked. That means we never have to technically post guards near our HQ because we know it's "safe".

Why not at least have the road itself in play. Can you imagine pentrating to the road and then running a couple of squads to the far end of the Hun line and coming up from behind (opposite the French and Russians)? Granted, they could post a machine gun to sweep the road, but as it is now, why bother?

All I can say John is that you hit a great point. From what I understand, that point has been a debate within the G8 for some time now. Maybe in the future that will change.

Jim

I guess we'll just have to be patient. I can't see there being a safety issue. If they are willing to try open combat in the ravines, etc. then I can't see any difference using the road. People would just have to be sure to elevate.

per Captain Lo... the HQ of either side has ALWAYS been out of bounds.

I think it's silly, but there you go!!

Supposidely, the Baron was in Max's bunker which was in bounds at the last event. We almost had him!!! OH BUGGAH!!

Carry On... Cherio... poxy gob sh-eye-t officers!!!!

Steve